acura 3.2 tl : I just bought brand new Acura 3.2TL.I've alreadyhad various problems.This is my first new carever.I reviewed the Lemon Law but don't qualifyyet.I'm wondering what recourse I have right now.Iam requesting a replacement & they say no. Theyare arrogant, rude,...and pushing me off.Problemsso far:Acura's description is Instrument ClusterFace Panel was deformed by the Hazard Switch,sothey had to remove the whole panel & replace.Thenthere were hoses hanging down near the ground inthe back of the car and they had to rigg themup.During this same visit the dealer was supposeto fix the most disturbing problem:air seepsthrough the windows into the car from differentwindows.When you're driving on the freeway you canhear the wind periodically coming inside.Theirwork report from the technician says "road testedcar,heard wind noise, adjusted driver's doorstriker,re-road tested.Still heard noise,adjustedtop of door frame inward to correct problem.Windnoise not heard during third road test". I pickedup car and on the way home I heard the wind noisestill. By now,I began to wonder why buy a new car?I spent 35K(w/navig)and now I have these localdealer technicians trying to fix problems on mybrand new vechicle. I went back to the dealer andtheir ready to try to fix the wind problemagain.The description of how they tried to fix itthe first time bothers me.Is this the type of"fix"that the local dealership should be workingon?Is this normal,non-serious problem? I don'twant a car with so many band-aid fixes.I wasexpecting to get my brand new car, drive it offthe lot and go back for occasional tune-ups. Ieven understand some touch-ups like reattachingthe hoses so they don't sag. But the control panelfix (which is now fixed) and the wind problemconcerns me.I have chosen not to have them work onthe wind problem until I figure out if Acurareally stands behind all the hype about a highstandard car, best value in the luxury class, TLCCustomer Care pkg.....and gives me a replacementcar that doesn't require this kind of seriousre-work. So does anyone know if these fixes arenormal to expect or not?And what are the chancesof me getting Acura to replace my car?
acura 3.2 tl : Now, now, why don't you speak for yourself instead of on behalf of otherpeople?Ken, the TL is a fine car for the money. Some of us see the value of buyingthe similarly equipped, though not as luxurious Honda Accord EX-V6, otherssee it justified to spend the extra money for a TL.As far as purchasing goes, the only thing you have to worry about is whetheryou want a navigation system or not.What other makes/models have you been considering by the way?Sandro, I am impressed (no irony. I'm being sincere here.) Very civil ofyou. if only you could have this type of attitude in your other discussionsabout the TL. Kudos to you. :-)I can't get enough of it. I find excuses to go driving places.There's not really any one thing that makes the car great, it's justthat all the parts that come together make it a beautifully solid car.PLUS, I got it for $25,500 from carsdirect (when they had theirspecial), so that makes it even THAT much more of a deal!I test drove the Acura 3.2TL and its a cruiser not a sportssedan. If you want a better ride, the 3.2TL is your bet.I like to own a rare car on the road so my snob-factor saysthat a 3.2TL is better. I used to own an '88 Honda PreludeSi but ever since then, Hondas have begun to look veryboring and no fog-lights. The TL also seems quieter thanthe Maxima SE.
acura 3.2 tl : If you want the fun-factor, the Maxima SE is a better choicebecause it has a sport-tuned suspension (this is where Icould really tell the difference between the Maxima SE andTL). It is also sexier with fog lights, a slanted centerradio panel like sports cars such as 300ZX, lamborghini, andAcura NSX. Don't let the dealer install aftermarket foglights because the light will bounce all over the road whenyou drive over rough roads and it'll drive you nuts (trybanging on the plastic bumper with your fist and you'll seewhat I mean).I live in Phoenix where it's very hot in the summer so Ididn't want leather seats (I wouldn't be able to wearshorts) but I did want leather steering wheel and only theMaxima had this configuration. I also prefer the look ofthe classic straight 5-star rims like sports cars (no weirdshapes). Also, sports/sporty cars (like Acura 3.2TL, 300ZX,Acura NSX, Honda Prelude, etc.) usually have the licenseplate set low in the bumper like the Maxima SE.Even though the 3.2TL has more horsepower than the '99Maxima, the TL is about 200 pounds heavier so thepower-to-weight ratio remains about the same. Besides, whocares about horsepower unless you're going to drive at themaximum speed? Torque is what I like because it pins yourback to the seat and both cars have about the same amount oftorque.
acura 3.2 tl : I'm in the market for a new car. I have narrowed my choices down tothe Audi S4, BMW 328i, or the Acura 3.2 TL. I recently had a chanceto drive the 2000 Audi A4, which was very nice car, but certainly noS4. The BMW 328i and the Acura 3.2 TL are next on my test drive list. The S4 has a MSRP of $38,425 excluding the optional equipment. Thedealer invoice for the S4 is $34,433 excluding the optional equipment.At the local Audi dealer, I was quoted a price, with all the optionsthat I wanted for the car, $40,825.The BMW 328i has a MSRP of $33,970, excluding the optional equipment.The dealer invoice for the 328i is $30,790, excluding the optionalequipment. The Acura 3.2 TL has a MSRP of $30,855, excluding the optionalequipment, but including the navigational system. The dealer invoicefor the 3.2 TL is $27,852.24, excluding the optional equipment, butincluding the navigational system. All MSRP and dealer invoice prices are quoted from Kelly Blue Book.The S4 is a nice performance car. I really like all the features onthe car, with the exception of the red illuminated lights on thedashboard and radio console.
acura 3.2 tl : The BMW 328i looks good, inside and out, as well as the 323i. The Acura 3.2 TL comes loaded with standard features. The only realoption for the car is the DVD based navigational system. Here are some of my concerns about each car. I'd like your opinionsand help.1. The S4 is appealing to me much more so than the other 2 cars I aminterested in, because the relatively low production of this car eachyear. Only 4000 to 5000 S4's are supposed to be produced each year.The red illuminated lights on the dashboard and the radio console Icould get over. The price tag is the main issue. High demand = highprice tag. Do you think its even reasonable to think I can get thiscar for just over the dealer invoice price? Remember I was quoted aprice just over $40,000.2. 328i vs 323i. Is the extra 23 horsepower worth the extra money?From what I have read, the 328i will get to 60mph in about 6.5seconds. The 323i will get to 60mph in about 7.3 seconds. With theBMW 3 series, leather is an option. With the other 2 cars, it is
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