lexus canada : Uhm, that's real intelligent. What, precisely, is a "dilluted maniac"? At least they have the ability to earn income and have enoughWhere am I flaunting money? You repeatedly badger me to find out things about my lifestyle, how much I paid for my car, etc. I do not give you that information because you're basically a lame-ass loser who won't go far in life due to your attitude. I guess that's why the Internet was created..... for pricks like youFor someone who admits that he dumps his day's stress at work (managers at fast-food chains can be as$holes), on this newsgroup, that's pretty ironic.All I know is that just about everyone who has sat in it and been taken out for a ride keeps thinking it's a brand new car. That's because it looks new, and smells new, and has 13.5K easy miles. Don't get me wrong: My SC400 could be a '92. But it could also be a '97. Just like your first name could be Steve or Lisa.How many times do I have to tell you that I've already taken it to a qualified mechanic? In fact, it's going into Lexus next week for its 14K mile service.
lexus canada : Well just for my 2 cents, but before I get started I want to thank all thefolks on this Toyota's users group for their fine comments on all thesubjects. Too bad, us lonely Lexus users don't have an alt.autos.lexus siteto brag, comment and complain!!!I have a 2002 RX300. I bought the car based on the long-term reliabilityratings in Consumers reports. I must admit I was not aware of the "sludge"issue until after I bought the car. I cannot really state if after readingall the posts, if I would have still bought the car or not. But, I do feelif Toyota does not take care of this issue in an acceptable manner, theywill gain in the short-run and lose valuable customers in the long-run.My personal solution to the problem, since I am neither a lawyer, nor agambler, is to take my car to the Lexus dealer each 3000 miles and have themchange the oil and filter. This appears to be the only safe response untilthe real issue about the engine problem is identified. At $42 per Oil &Filter change, it does seem like gouging, but it ain't worth the hassle ifLexus/Toyota is not going to back-up their written warranties with a littlemore than blaming the owners.
lexus canada : Again, you folks have a great users group here, thanks for letting me bargein!! Are you really paying $42 US for an oil change at a dealer?Toyota & Honda dealers in this area frequently advertise oil changesfor about $25.00 (Canadian ; one US dollar = about $1.50 Canadian),probably to compete with Walmart etc. Also they have realized that itis good to get you in for a few visits to try and sell you somethingelse even if they don't make a lot of money on the oil change. I thinkyour dealer IS gouging you. They are'nt "giving" you an engine flush,complimentary car wash or taxi ride are they? IF ONE (JUST ONE) PERSON was able to show proof that theysuffered problems while using a proper (or any kind of) maintenanceschedule you would have reason to be paranoid. Therefore you don't.That high CR rating must mean something. Toyota HAS admitted failure alright. They failed to produce anengine that was "owner abuse proof" enough. They fail after 40,000 to100,00 miles of ZERO maintenance. During my several years as parts and service mgr at a Hondamotorcycle dealership I found that 95%+ warranty claims were caused byowner abuse. If they weren't fairly abuse-proof they would havesuffered a lot more failures.
lexus canada : On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 17:08:27 -0500, "Wayne Zielinski" wrote:What I said was that they are not abuse-proof enough. I did not sayowners of other brands or engines are any better. All mfrs must makeallowances for bonehead owners. er except Ford & Chrysler - they are too busy getting them to staytogether period. When replying, keep in mind that ----KAM is the Canadian version of the popular american 'meat'get it?The 42 dollars is what my Lexus dealer quoted. I know the local Toyotadealer will do the same service for about $22 to $25 and this seemsreasonable. When I complained at the Lexus dealer, he told me that theyonly make a $10 profit on the oil and filter change. They must have a veryhigh overhead!!!The problem with leasing cars and the maintenance is an interesting one. Itappears to be the same problem that people used to speak about concerningbuying a fleet rental car. Let the buyer beware is still the best approachin any circumstance.Truely, it is amazing the confused responses you post. Owners of other brandsare dealing with major issues (Check Ford, Chrysler, Hyundai, Mazda, etc) whileall the Toyota people have to gripe about currently is sludge resulting fromowner negligence.
lexus canada : ~~~ Philip ~~~ Try new things! Remember... the Ark was made by amateurs while the Titanic was made by professionals.It is interesting what Toyota Canada vs. Lexus Canada cost for oil changes.For my 2002 Camry LE V6, an oil change is $26.95. If I have a Lexus using asimilar V6 engine, its $54.99. Both prices is for REGULAR grade oil. Thekicker is that for $59.95, I can use 100% Toyota Synthetic oil which isImperial Oil 100% Synthetic.I think Lexus figures that the guys who can afford the expensive cars canafford to pay more for oil changes.Why not they paid a lot more for not much more car didn't they?. When Iwas still working at the dealerships we had a central service facilityfor several brands. We always charged a higher shop rate for the sametechnicians when they worked on luxury brands. ;)I know complaining about the high price of oil changes on a Lexus is notgoing to get much empathy, but if I go out an get a Toyota Echo (which isanother well made car), will I get a $10 oil & filter change? That seemsfair, about the same ratio as the Lexus to the Camry. Again I'm only jokingso no response is required.
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